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There are plenty of reasonable arguments to be heard about Project Hayes. Whether climate change is really happening is not one of them.

There are some fairly reasonable reasons why a person might oppose Meridian's Project Hayes wind farm in Central Otago. Perhaps you’re particularly fond of the view over the Lammermoor Range, or you're not impressed by the production capacity of wind farms compared to more constant forms of energy generation. Perhaps the proposed 176 turbines are just too darn many for your liking.

Then there are the unreasonable reasons. Like Monday's assertion by Professor Bob Carter that—to paraphrase—wind farms are a waste of time and money since global warming isn't happening.

Carter was speaking at the Environment Court appeal hearing currently underway in Cromwell, where he appeared as a witness for appellant Roch Sullivan. (Sullivan is an Auckland property developer independently opposing Project Hayes on the grounds that it is ‘not in the national interest’.) Sullivan seems intent on hijacking the appeal hearing  to put climate science itself on trial. Never minding that you can't rule against a law of physics, he asks, “If the theory of man-made global warming fails to survive serious scientific scrutiny, how can Meridian or the Government responsibly spend billions of tax-payers’ money to build it?”

Let's look at that serious scientific scrutiny he's talking about. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports are based on the peer-reviewed, published work of 2500 scientists in more than 130 countries. Its Fourth Assessment Report summary, released in February 2007, stated that human actions are "very likely" the cause of global warming, meaning 90% or greater probability (which is about as certain as proper scientists like to get).

Thirty-four of the world's leading science academies and professional bodies have released statements agreeing with the IPCC's assessment—including a joint statement from the national science academies of the G8 nations (that's Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the UK, the US and the entire European Union) together with Brazil, China and India.

Last month, the Royal Society of New Zealand (RSNZ) joined them with its statement: "The globe is warming, because of increasing greenhouse gas emissions" (read the full statement here). RSNZ is an independent, national academy of sciences, comprised of over 1200 members and 60 constituent scientific and technological societies, representing nearly 20,000 New Zealand scientists, technologists and technicians.

The fact of climatic warming itself is not in question by any scientific body. And no scientific body of international standing is known to reject the basic findings of human influence on recent climate.

The serious scientific scrutiny Roch Sullivan's looking for has already been done—and, funnily enough, by scientists rather than lawyers.

Unfortunately, there hasn't been any serious media scrutiny of Sullivan's star witness, Bob Carter. Carter is a research professor in the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, Australia. He is a marine geologist. He has published no peer-reviewed papers providing evidence for his statements about climate change. The Sydney Morning Herald wrote last year that "Professor Carter ... appears to have little, if any, standing in the Australian climate science community. He is on the research committee at the Institute of Public Affairs, a think tank that has received funding from oil and tobacco companies, and whose directors sit on the boards of companies in the fossil fuel sector."

Elsewhere, Carter has been called "an embarrassment to Australian science", and he has been accused taking his scientific 'facts' from a Fox News opinion piece.

It's disappointing that the Otago Daily Times and 3 News didn't investigate Carter's reputation or the validity of his claims before giving time and space to his thoroughly discredited climate change 'argument'.

There are plenty of reasonable arguments still to be had about climate change—how to cope with it and how to slow it down, for a start—just as there are plenty of reasonable arguments to be heard about Project Hayes. Whether or not climate change is really happening is not one of them.

Comments

Matt Cooney
 
Thu July 31, 2008 @ 01:50 PM
TV3's report is a shocker. "A new argument" is actually the same old denialist claptrap. The pity is that it makes it easier to gloss over real concerns.

Central Otago has been vandalised for decades to provide the rest of the country with hydro power. To do the same with wind in the name of sustainability is grotesque.
Martin
 
Thu July 31, 2008 @ 03:49 PM
Okay so some silly pratt wants to debate global warming. Forget debating just ask him what his genius comment about Peak Oil is. Should be amusing.
Anna Fisher
 
Sat August 02, 2008 @ 01:02 PM
Annabel Mcaleer's ad hominen attack on Prof Carter is embarrassingly ignorant. It is also disappointing that her readers, like Matt and Martin, unthinkingly missed what her attack told us about the stength of her argument and her determination to suppress debate.  Why did Annabel not wish to share with us the specific criticisms which Prof Carter and many other distinguished scientists around the World are now raising about the views on glogal warming propogated by the IPCC?  There are in fact  very respectable arguments against the idea that man made CO2 emissions are dangerously warming the planet.  If Annabel does not know that she has either not read or does not understand the published and peer reviewed scientific literature.  Her approach is unfortunately very common among the "warmers". They get angry when their beliefs are questioned. Perhaps Dr. Samuel Johnson presciently diagnosed the cause of Annabel approach: "Every man who attacks my belief diminishes in some degree my confidence in it and therefore makes me uneasy; and I am angry with him who makes me uneasy".
 The Environment Court hearing on Project Hayes is one of the very few occasions when the debate about the impact of manmade C02 emissions has been properly subjected to examination critical anlysis and where scientists for each side have had their arguments test by cross examination.  My suggestion to Annabel and her loyal adherants is that she keep heranger under control and pays close attention to the evidence given and still to be given atthat hearing.  There is more to come  from World's leading scientists.  You never know Annabel, you just might learn something.
Bill
 
Sun August 03, 2008 @ 10:39 PM

It is not an established fact that man-made CO2 emissions are dangerously warming the planet. It is a belief shared by a large number of scientists, politicians and political agitators, research institutions, and corporates, many of whom have a vested interest in that belief becoming universal.
Why is it that believers get so angry whenever their belief is questioned?
Dr Samuel Johnson, a religious man, said: "Every man who attacks my belief diminishes in some degree my confidence in it and therefore makes me uneasy; and I am angry with him who makes me uneasy".
So, my advice to the warmers is to take it easy and to be open about the doubt and to think about trying to answer Lord Monkton's yet unanswered question at the Bali Climate Conference last year: How many years of cooling will it take for you to question your belief? (paraphrased)

Annabel McAleer
 
Mon August 04, 2008 @ 01:13 PM
Thanks for your comments, Anna and Bill. Anna separately emailed me a report published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons last year, which I have now read.

I am not a climate scientist, and I don't have the time or resources to exhaustively analyse the claims made by the paper. My impression, however, was that it doesn't stack up: it seems to discusses US weather as if it can be extrapolated to global climate, and many of its claims contradict much of the available evidence (on hurricanes, for example).

And since I'm not a climate scientist, all I can do is assess scientific claims by the credibility of where they come from. Bob Carter does not seem credible to me. Neither does the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (which in the past has published articles arguing that HIV does not cause AIDS, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, that illegal aliens carry disease and perpetrate violent crime, and that the 'gay male lifestyle' shortens life expectancy by 20 years). The journal is not listed in the major literature databases, and the association it serves is openly political rather than medical.

Just as it is absurd to suggest that Environmental Court lawyers are able to settle matters of science through cross-examination, I don't believe there is any reason to believe a deeply politicised medical journal is a credible source of information on climate science.

I'll keep listening to what the world's leading scientific bodies have to say, although I do appreciate the Samuel Johnson quote you both mention (what a coincidence! I also note that Bill's comment originally appeared on the ODT website although -- another coincidence -- there it was posted under the name Anna.) Of course, the same quote could equally apply in the reverse direction.

Still, at least we can all agree that Samuel Johnson is great. I like this one: "It is more from carelessness about truth than from intentionally lying that there is so much falsehood in the world."
James Stewart
www.artklick.co.nz
 
Sat August 09, 2008 @ 06:27 PM
I think I would still prefer a windfarm over a dammed river.
 
Without regular flooding rivers aggreade (shingle builds up) resulting in an increased chance of stop bank breaches, not to mention the increase in slime and noxious weeds within the riverbed.

I saw a recent poll if New Zealanders would mind nuclear power and 75% were for it - I am undecided. The technology that exists today must be very good?

I just brought the first edition of Good and loved it, I would love to see an article on the different power generators that contribute to NZ and where the future for cleaner enegy generation lies.

For instance -after a bit of googling it appears the technology is there to create hydrogen powerplants. Granted - It would probably take a few billion, but imagine how cheap, clean power could impact upon our economy in the future of a certian energy crisis.

I guess if it was possible one of the big companies would have done it, but it would be cool! 

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