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What did you think of Andy Kenworthy's story about switching from vegan to omnivore in Good #23? We received a wide range of responses from people who wanted to share their thoughts. Read on for some of the letters we didn't have room to publish ... and tell us your own views!

Andy Kenworthy's story 'My Lunch and Other Animals' (Good #23) provoked a flurry of debate around which diets are the most ethical, environmentally friendly and healthy ... and if there is a single one that encompasses all three.

What did you think of Andy's story? Share your views in the comments below!

More science, please

I was disappointed when reading the article prepared by your correspondent Mr Kenworthy about meat consumption and the scientific and ethical considerations involved. While I think it's fine to hold a given view surrounding the issue whether one is vegan, vegetarian, or the various spectra of omnivore, I think the publication of such views needs to be based upon a reasoned and evidence-based line of inquiry. In this Mr Kenworthy's article, in my view, fails. It is unfortunate that Good magazine (who's articles are usually quite sound) has chosen to publish the internal thoughts of someone who appears, unfortunately, to be scientifically illiterate rather than seeking expert advice.

Specifically, the comment around iron levels was strange, given that this is a widespread (but also widely discredited) notion which is in reality complicated by the very factors Mr Kenworthy later cites for a different example (e.g. metabolism, life stage, lifestyle [and sex]). Related to this issue, perhaps rather than self-diagnosis and confusing causation with correlation, Mr Kenworthy might have looked a little more deeply into the matter with his dietician.

I also find the claim that meat eating can be justified by proximity with other very different unethical behaviours (e.g. computer use) a bizarre and troublesome logic.

The article contains other errors of either logic or evidence, but perhaps the most surprising to me was the claim that humans had 3.4 million years of meat eating evolution driving them. As an archaeologist I find such sweeping statements difficult to stomach (pun intended) considering that the genus homo (i.e. humans) did not emerge until much later, and considering the complexities and subtleties of human evolutionary history.

Finally, Mr Kenworthy's claims about organic farming as the sustainable way forward seems to ring hollow when one considers beef and dairy production. New Zealand beef is, technically, organically produced via free-ranging/grazing stock. Yet such heavy stock share a heavy portion of the responsibility for topsoil depletion around the globe (this was quite well publicised recently in an issue of the National Geographic but is also detailed in United Nations reports on agricultural sustainability), land instability, and nitrate run-off. The situation is even worse when considering some of the steeper geography currently farmed in New Zealand.

I hope in the future Good magazine might seek peer-review on the work of some of its contributors.

–Edward Ashby
BA (hons), MA (anthropology), PgDip Forensic Science

Comments

Andy Kenworthy
 
Sat April 21, 2012 @ 03:53 PM
In response to Edward Ashby:

This article was not intended as a piece of scientific research. It was a personal reflection of the way I, and I would argue most people, make food choices based on a mixture of evidence based lines of inquiry, professional and non-professional advice, their own experience, and how they feel.
I make no definite statements about iron levels other than to state that my wife's iron level was found to be low and mine wasn't, although I was worried it might be. 
On ethics I was illustrating how modern life is not ethical in many other areas other than diet, and it pays to look at our lives in a holistic manner. 
The reference to  "what's believed to be more than 3.4 million years of meat eating" is from, among other sources, a New Scientist report that Shannon McPherron of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig and colleagues have evidence that Australopithecus afarensis, an early homonin, used tools to butcher animals. 
As a professional environmentalist and consultant to WWF, Oxfam and several other environmental organisations, I am acutely aware of the link between past and current meat production systems and soil erosion, as well as a host of other environmental issues. My suggestion is that these do not necessarily require us to abandon meat altogether, but look for improved methods of production.  
"New approaches to animal husbandry" does not just mean organic: it includes the continuing development of appropriately sited, ecologically integrated, low stock, small scale and holistic approaches including permaculture, bio-dynamics and more. 
Last Edit: April 23, 2012 @ 11:08AM by Rebekah 
Lois Hampstead
 
Mon April 23, 2012 @ 11:14 AM
I enjoyed Andy Kenworthy's article for what it was - one persons view and reflection on how he came to that view. 

I don't have to agree with a point of view to enjoy the articles in GOOD.   It's a magazine ( a very good one as it happens ) not a scientific journal. 

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